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		<title>By: Kevin Dangoor</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2004/03/19/top-ten-reasons-that-tdd-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-210869</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Dangoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:27:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Sebastian: it looks like you are taking this post literally, rather than as sarcasm. Please don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Sebastian: it looks like you are taking this post literally, rather than as sarcasm. Please don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Sebastian</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2004/03/19/top-ten-reasons-that-tdd-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-210868</link>
		<dc:creator>Sebastian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Oct 2009 16:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey! are you working @ Microsoft?

# I never have enough time to write the tests, once I’ve finished the
main functionality.=&gt; you shouldn&#039;t be a programmer in that case, your code will be full of bugs

# Testing isn’t my job, because it’s QA’s job to make sure I do quality work. =&gt; Test is code and you&#039;re being paid to code. Testing is part of the development cycle. Best Practice!

# Unit tests don’t help me, because my code always works perfectly when I add new features.=&gt; code isn&#039;t yours... there&#039;s an 80% chance of getting legacy code =&gt; what happens if you modify that code or add new features?

# There’s no need to test drive my code, because the design handed to me by the architect covers every possibility =&gt; what&#039;s your architect?? Eric Evans??

# Running the tests is a pain, because it takes too long to scan through =&gt; Have you ever heard about Continuous Integration?

# Running the tests takes too long, because reloading the database
and restarting the app server between tests takes forever =&gt; same as above

# TDD is just a fad, and it’s completely unnecessary anyhow since projects always succeeded before =&gt; projects were a lot simplier, and the idea is to complete things with less efort that what we&#039;ve done in the past

# Unit tests don’t help me, because my code works perfectly the first time. That&#039;s not true... are you coding beans? have you tried c++???

# I don’t like TDD, because I enjoy the hours I spend in my
debugger =&gt; but your boss don&#039;t, and it&#039;s paying for your time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey! are you working @ Microsoft?</p>
<p># I never have enough time to write the tests, once I’ve finished the<br />
main functionality.=&gt; you shouldn&#8217;t be a programmer in that case, your code will be full of bugs</p>
<p># Testing isn’t my job, because it’s QA’s job to make sure I do quality work. =&gt; Test is code and you&#8217;re being paid to code. Testing is part of the development cycle. Best Practice!</p>
<p># Unit tests don’t help me, because my code always works perfectly when I add new features.=&gt; code isn&#8217;t yours&#8230; there&#8217;s an 80% chance of getting legacy code =&gt; what happens if you modify that code or add new features?</p>
<p># There’s no need to test drive my code, because the design handed to me by the architect covers every possibility =&gt; what&#8217;s your architect?? Eric Evans??</p>
<p># Running the tests is a pain, because it takes too long to scan through =&gt; Have you ever heard about Continuous Integration?</p>
<p># Running the tests takes too long, because reloading the database<br />
and restarting the app server between tests takes forever =&gt; same as above</p>
<p># TDD is just a fad, and it’s completely unnecessary anyhow since projects always succeeded before =&gt; projects were a lot simplier, and the idea is to complete things with less efort that what we&#8217;ve done in the past</p>
<p># Unit tests don’t help me, because my code works perfectly the first time. That&#8217;s not true&#8230; are you coding beans? have you tried c++???</p>
<p># I don’t like TDD, because I enjoy the hours I spend in my<br />
debugger =&gt; but your boss don&#8217;t, and it&#8217;s paying for your time</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Dangoor</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2004/03/19/top-ten-reasons-that-tdd-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-210328</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Dangoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 16:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>5 years on, I&#039;m still very much a proponent of TDD and operate that way as much as possible. I&#039;m working on a project now that will soon be open source and the server side was test driven all the way.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>5 years on, I&#8217;m still very much a proponent of TDD and operate that way as much as possible. I&#8217;m working on a project now that will soon be open source and the server side was test driven all the way.</p>
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		<title>By: Ed Darnell</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2004/03/19/top-ten-reasons-that-tdd-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-210327</link>
		<dc:creator>Ed Darnell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Feb 2009 14:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reading this 5 years after the fact but I like this post - particularly the onward links (I&#039;ll follow and read them all at some stage).

Has thinking moved on?
Any newer blogs you would recommend?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reading this 5 years after the fact but I like this post &#8211; particularly the onward links (I&#8217;ll follow and read them all at some stage).</p>
<p>Has thinking moved on?<br />
Any newer blogs you would recommend?</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Watkins</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2004/03/19/top-ten-reasons-that-tdd-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-417</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Watkins</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You should have waited a couple of weeks and posted this up on April 1... :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You should have waited a couple of weeks and posted this up on April 1&#8230; <img src='http://www.blueskyonmars.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Dangoor</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2004/03/19/top-ten-reasons-that-tdd-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-418</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Dangoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t subtle enough for April 1 :)

BTW, I should mention that the format of this was inspired by:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.blueskyonmars.com/archives/2004/02/29/12_reasons_gay_marriage_will_ruin_society_not.html&quot;&gt;http://www.blueskyonmars.com/archives/2004/02/29/12_reasons_gay_marriage_will_ruin_society_not.html&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t subtle enough for April 1 <img src='http://www.blueskyonmars.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>BTW, I should mention that the format of this was inspired by:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.blueskyonmars.com/archives/2004/02/29/12_reasons_gay_marriage_will_ruin_society_not.html">http://www.blueskyonmars.com/archives/2004/02/29/12_reasons_gay_marriage_will_ruin_society_not.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Jari Aarniala</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2004/03/19/top-ten-reasons-that-tdd-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-419</link>
		<dc:creator>Jari Aarniala</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very nice :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very nice <img src='http://www.blueskyonmars.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Vazz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Vazz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent!</description>
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		<title>By: Fred Grott</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2004/03/19/top-ten-reasons-that-tdd-sucks/comment-page-1/#comment-421</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred Grott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Jan 1970 00:00:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The danger of doing TDD jokes ot TDD insiders is that no one else will get the jokes..


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The danger of doing TDD jokes ot TDD insiders is that no one else will get the jokes..</p>
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