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	<title>Comments on: A day after TurboGears&#8217; release</title>
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	<description>The Nuts and Bolts of Creating Great Software Products</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin Dangoor</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2005/09/18/a-day-after-turbogears-release/comment-page-1/#comment-208394</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Dangoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 19:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry to hear that you had trouble getting the program (I assume you mean the Toolbox?)  running. Did you try to mailing list? That&#039;s usually the best place for help.

I&#039;ve never used the RPM personally...  it may be worth adding a note to the docs:

http://docs.turbogears.org/1.0/TgAdmin

I assume the command is actually tg-admin toolbox -c  ::ffff:127.0.0.1</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry to hear that you had trouble getting the program (I assume you mean the Toolbox?)  running. Did you try to mailing list? That&#8217;s usually the best place for help.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never used the RPM personally&#8230;  it may be worth adding a note to the docs:</p>
<p><a href="http://docs.turbogears.org/1.0/TgAdmin" rel="nofollow">http://docs.turbogears.org/1.0/TgAdmin</a></p>
<p>I assume the command is actually tg-admin toolbox -c  ::ffff:127.0.0.1</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2005/09/18/a-day-after-turbogears-release/comment-page-1/#comment-208393</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Mar 2008 17:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about a 20 minute video on how to launch the TG program after you&#039;ve installed the rpm? After two days of beating my head against the wall and some googling, I discovered the 

tg-admin -c ::ffff:127.0.0.1 

trick. Geesh. I don&#039;t care how cool it is, if thats what I have to do to load it 20 times a day it&#039;s going to get real old, real fast.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about a 20 minute video on how to launch the TG program after you&#8217;ve installed the rpm? After two days of beating my head against the wall and some googling, I discovered the </p>
<p>tg-admin -c ::ffff:127.0.0.1 </p>
<p>trick. Geesh. I don&#8217;t care how cool it is, if thats what I have to do to load it 20 times a day it&#8217;s going to get real old, real fast.</p>
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		<title>By: tazzzzz</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2005/09/18/a-day-after-turbogears-release/comment-page-1/#comment-2678</link>
		<dc:creator>tazzzzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 13:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I can see the argument for &quot;metaframework&quot;, I chose &quot;megaframework&quot; to reflect the frontend-to-backend all-inclusive nature of it. I don&#039;t think &quot;meta&quot; captures that as well.

Glad you like TurboGears!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I can see the argument for &#8220;metaframework&#8221;, I chose &#8220;megaframework&#8221; to reflect the frontend-to-backend all-inclusive nature of it. I don&#8217;t think &#8220;meta&#8221; captures that as well.</p>
<p>Glad you like TurboGears!</p>
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		<title>By: fpillet</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2005/09/18/a-day-after-turbogears-release/comment-page-1/#comment-2674</link>
		<dc:creator>fpillet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 12:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Metaframework&quot; would be a more accurate name for TurboGears, as it wraps several existing frameworks. It&#039;s the same rationale than for Apple&#039;s Metapackages which are aggregates of several installation packages.

BTW TurboGears is *very* cool.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Metaframework&#8221; would be a more accurate name for TurboGears, as it wraps several existing frameworks. It&#8217;s the same rationale than for Apple&#8217;s Metapackages which are aggregates of several installation packages.</p>
<p>BTW TurboGears is *very* cool.</p>
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		<title>By: tazzzzz</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2005/09/18/a-day-after-turbogears-release/comment-page-1/#comment-2671</link>
		<dc:creator>tazzzzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:49:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and I didn&#039;t mean to skip over Jay&#039;s comment above. I do agree that having more than one really good choice is better than having a couple of crappy choices.

And I&#039;m glad you think TurboGears is really cool looking!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and I didn&#8217;t mean to skip over Jay&#8217;s comment above. I do agree that having more than one really good choice is better than having a couple of crappy choices.</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m glad you think TurboGears is really cool looking!</p>
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		<title>By: tazzzzz</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2005/09/18/a-day-after-turbogears-release/comment-page-1/#comment-2670</link>
		<dc:creator>tazzzzz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I did come across tada for the first time a few days ago. It looks neat, but I&#039;m ultimately really turned off by the &quot;callbacks everywhere&quot; style of programming. I&#039;ve gathered that the new Python 2.5 features may be able to alleviate that, and I would happily take another look.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I did come across tada for the first time a few days ago. It looks neat, but I&#8217;m ultimately really turned off by the &#8220;callbacks everywhere&#8221; style of programming. I&#8217;ve gathered that the new Python 2.5 features may be able to alleviate that, and I would happily take another look.</p>
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		<title>By: Robert Kern</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2005/09/18/a-day-after-turbogears-release/comment-page-1/#comment-2669</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Kern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2005 00:18:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: Twisted and SQLObject
You may want to look at tada, which wraps an DB-API2 backend with an asynchronous layer. It has an SQLObject-ish ORM, too.

http://www.linuxgames.co.za/projects/tada/

I&#039;ve never used it myself, but it&#039;s something to look at.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re: Twisted and SQLObject<br />
You may want to look at tada, which wraps an DB-API2 backend with an asynchronous layer. It has an SQLObject-ish ORM, too.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.linuxgames.co.za/projects/tada/" rel="nofollow">http://www.linuxgames.co.za/projects/tada/</a></p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never used it myself, but it&#8217;s something to look at.</p>
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		<title>By: Jay P</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2005/09/18/a-day-after-turbogears-release/comment-page-1/#comment-2665</link>
		<dc:creator>Jay P</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Sep 2005 04:08:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You guys keep making this so hard on me! I finally decide that it&#039;s time for me to learn how to create web apps, and settle on Django as I&#039;m a long time Python guy. 

Then you create a brand new really cool-looking framework, creating new indecision for me!

Oh well, I guess having to choose between really cool options is the kind of problem I can deal with.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You guys keep making this so hard on me! I finally decide that it&#8217;s time for me to learn how to create web apps, and settle on Django as I&#8217;m a long time Python guy. </p>
<p>Then you create a brand new really cool-looking framework, creating new indecision for me!</p>
<p>Oh well, I guess having to choose between really cool options is the kind of problem I can deal with.</p>
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