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	<title>Comments on: App Engine: I agree with Ian Bicking the Luddite</title>
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	<description>Kevin Dangoor on Technology, Business and Everything</description>
	<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jul 2008 18:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Robert Boyd</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/04/09/app-engine-i-agree-with-ian-bicking-the-luddite/#comment-208569</link>
		<dc:creator>Robert Boyd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 16:07:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't understand the 'no thanks', either. 8.1 merely states that their use of your content is solely in providing the service for your application. They aren't redistributing your data for use outside of your application, from the way I read it. Section 8.2 is the free advertising clause, for a "sites that use App Engine" promotion of Google that benefits your app. I'd say thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand the &#8216;no thanks&#8217;, either. 8.1 merely states that their use of your content is solely in providing the service for your application. They aren&#8217;t redistributing your data for use outside of your application, from the way I read it. Section 8.2 is the free advertising clause, for a &#8220;sites that use App Engine&#8221; promotion of Google that benefits your app. I&#8217;d say thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Dangoor</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/04/09/app-engine-i-agree-with-ian-bicking-the-luddite/#comment-208556</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Dangoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 03:04:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, what are you complaining about? Is it that Google can use your name to say how cool App Engine is (also publicizing your app in the process?) or is it that you're agreeing to allow Google to provide the service?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, what are you complaining about? Is it that Google can use your name to say how cool App Engine is (also publicizing your app in the process?) or is it that you&#8217;re agreeing to allow Google to provide the service?</p>
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		<title>By: david</title>
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		<dc:creator>david</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 02:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ahh, the App Engine License:

8.1. Google claims no ownership or control over any Content or
Application. You retain copyright and any other rights you already
hold in the Content and/or Application, and you are responsible for
protecting those rights, as appropriate. By submitting, posting or
displaying the Content on or through the Service you give Google a
worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce,
adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display
and distribute such Content for the sole purpose of enabling Google to
provide you with the Service in accordance with its privacy policy.
Furthermore, by creating an Application through use of the Service,
you give Google a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license
to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform,
publicly display and distribute such Application for the sole purpose
of enabling Google to provide you with the Service in accordance with
its privacy policy.

8.2. You agree that Google, in its sole discretion, may use your trade
names, trademarks, service marks, logos, domain names and other
distinctive brand features in presentations, marketing materials,
customer lists, financial reports and Web site listings (including
links to your website) for the purpose of advertising or publicizing
your use of the Service.

No thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ahh, the App Engine License:</p>
<p>8.1. Google claims no ownership or control over any Content or<br />
Application. You retain copyright and any other rights you already<br />
hold in the Content and/or Application, and you are responsible for<br />
protecting those rights, as appropriate. By submitting, posting or<br />
displaying the Content on or through the Service you give Google a<br />
worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license to reproduce,<br />
adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display<br />
and distribute such Content for the sole purpose of enabling Google to<br />
provide you with the Service in accordance with its privacy policy.<br />
Furthermore, by creating an Application through use of the Service,<br />
you give Google a worldwide, royalty-free, and non-exclusive license<br />
to reproduce, adapt, modify, translate, publish, publicly perform,<br />
publicly display and distribute such Application for the sole purpose<br />
of enabling Google to provide you with the Service in accordance with<br />
its privacy policy.</p>
<p>8.2. You agree that Google, in its sole discretion, may use your trade<br />
names, trademarks, service marks, logos, domain names and other<br />
distinctive brand features in presentations, marketing materials,<br />
customer lists, financial reports and Web site listings (including<br />
links to your website) for the purpose of advertising or publicizing<br />
your use of the Service.</p>
<p>No thanks.</p>
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