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	<description>The Nuts and Bolts of Creating Great Software Products</description>
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		<title>By: Kevin Dangoor</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/10/29/in-the-market-for-a-job/comment-page-1/#comment-210122</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Dangoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 13:06:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh... It&#039;s the &quot;pay is bad&quot; problem that drove me away from TurboGears to begin with :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heh&#8230; It&#8217;s the &#8220;pay is bad&#8221; problem that drove me away from TurboGears to begin with <img src='http://www.blueskyonmars.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jorge Vargas</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/10/29/in-the-market-for-a-job/comment-page-1/#comment-210120</link>
		<dc:creator>Jorge Vargas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 10:20:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How about working for turbogears? the pay is bad but the environment is awesome :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How about working for turbogears? the pay is bad but the environment is awesome <img src='http://www.blueskyonmars.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dug Song</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/10/29/in-the-market-for-a-job/comment-page-1/#comment-210070</link>
		<dc:creator>Dug Song</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 03:19:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Google has 1 remote engineer here in town, but he&#039;s truly an exception.

Niels, Marius, Joe, Doug, James, Annie, ...come back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Google has 1 remote engineer here in town, but he&#8217;s truly an exception.</p>
<p>Niels, Marius, Joe, Doug, James, Annie, &#8230;come back!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Dangoor</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/10/29/in-the-market-for-a-job/comment-page-1/#comment-210065</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Dangoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 14:40:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, Google doesn&#039;t have any tech staff locally, and I&#039;m not willing to relocate. I don&#039;t know if they go for remote employees...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, Google doesn&#8217;t have any tech staff locally, and I&#8217;m not willing to relocate. I don&#8217;t know if they go for remote employees&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Francisco Ribeiro</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/10/29/in-the-market-for-a-job/comment-page-1/#comment-210064</link>
		<dc:creator>Francisco Ribeiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Nov 2008 11:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi

I know it&#039;s obvious but.... Have you considered working for Google?
I think you will hardly get a better environment and more interesting than that and I&#039;m sure they would love to have someone like you.
Who knows what fortune could that bring to Turbogears... ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi</p>
<p>I know it&#8217;s obvious but&#8230;. Have you considered working for Google?<br />
I think you will hardly get a better environment and more interesting than that and I&#8217;m sure they would love to have someone like you.<br />
Who knows what fortune could that bring to Turbogears&#8230; ?</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Dangoor</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/10/29/in-the-market-for-a-job/comment-page-1/#comment-210052</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Dangoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, advertising doesn&#039;t pay that well. From my experience, when you make open source development tools, the *easiest* path from that to making a decent living is in contract work and other consulting. Depending on the size of the project and what it&#039;s all about, there are other opportunities that come up... but advertising isn&#039;t the main one. At least, not traditional advertising... web hosting referrals, for example, can make some money.

Thanks for the good luck wishes!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, advertising doesn&#8217;t pay that well. From my experience, when you make open source development tools, the *easiest* path from that to making a decent living is in contract work and other consulting. Depending on the size of the project and what it&#8217;s all about, there are other opportunities that come up&#8230; but advertising isn&#8217;t the main one. At least, not traditional advertising&#8230; web hosting referrals, for example, can make some money.</p>
<p>Thanks for the good luck wishes!</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/10/29/in-the-market-for-a-job/comment-page-1/#comment-210051</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Nov 2008 03:01:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi,

With all those projects you should be making enough in advertising to retire, then maybe work on more projects or further develop the current ones.

Good luck!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi,</p>
<p>With all those projects you should be making enough in advertising to retire, then maybe work on more projects or further develop the current ones.</p>
<p>Good luck!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Wilson</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/10/29/in-the-market-for-a-job/comment-page-1/#comment-210039</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 30 Oct 2008 15:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I will pay you $80 for however many hours of documentation and bug scrubbing that buys me in TG 1.0.  In particular, I&#039;d like to see better docs on these topics:

1. complex formencode schema validators, like one where you add in fields based on combinations of other fields, talk to the database, look at cookies, replace missing values with defaults, etc.

2. some better examples for using the exception_handler decorator.  Show how it is intended to be used, and explain how to reinvoke the validate parameter so that all the parameters get re-encoded for the handler method.

3. some examples of testing controller methods that use identity rules, validators, and that raise redirects from within.

I hope other people would be willing to match me.  Let&#039;s make this into an irritating NPR-style pledge drive!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I will pay you $80 for however many hours of documentation and bug scrubbing that buys me in TG 1.0.  In particular, I&#8217;d like to see better docs on these topics:</p>
<p>1. complex formencode schema validators, like one where you add in fields based on combinations of other fields, talk to the database, look at cookies, replace missing values with defaults, etc.</p>
<p>2. some better examples for using the exception_handler decorator.  Show how it is intended to be used, and explain how to reinvoke the validate parameter so that all the parameters get re-encoded for the handler method.</p>
<p>3. some examples of testing controller methods that use identity rules, validators, and that raise redirects from within.</p>
<p>I hope other people would be willing to match me.  Let&#8217;s make this into an irritating NPR-style pledge drive!</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin Dangoor</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/10/29/in-the-market-for-a-job/comment-page-1/#comment-210037</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin Dangoor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 23:00:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Domingo!

Unfortunately, I&#039;m not willing to relocate and that sounds like a difficult job to do remotely. Not impossible, but difficult (and I wouldn&#039;t be surprised if remote was not an option with them).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Domingo!</p>
<p>Unfortunately, I&#8217;m not willing to relocate and that sounds like a difficult job to do remotely. Not impossible, but difficult (and I wouldn&#8217;t be surprised if remote was not an option with them).</p>
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		<title>By: Domingo Aguilera</title>
		<link>http://www.blueskyonmars.com/2008/10/29/in-the-market-for-a-job/comment-page-1/#comment-210036</link>
		<dc:creator>Domingo Aguilera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 29 Oct 2008 22:41:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I saw a job offer ( python developmnent in Lucas Film ) in LinkedIn.  Check on my recent tweets.  I am batok in tweeter.

Good Luck , Kevin.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I saw a job offer ( python developmnent in Lucas Film ) in LinkedIn.  Check on my recent tweets.  I am batok in tweeter.</p>
<p>Good Luck , Kevin.</p>
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