Comments on: What Server Side JavaScript needs

By: As Escolhas do MV (XVI) « mvalente.eu/mv.*

As Escolhas do MV (XVI) « mvalente.eu/mv.* — Sun, 17 Jan 2010 22:40:45 +0000

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By: Kevin Dangoor

Kevin Dangoor — Thu, 08 Oct 2009 00:20:26 +0000

@jhuni: The effort that I introduced here has come a long way since this posting. More announcements are pending, but CommonJS has really covered quite a bit of ground and has several implementations (running on Rhino, SpiderMonkey, v8 and JavaScriptCore) that are tracking the standard-in-progress.

By: jhuni

jhuni — Wed, 07 Oct 2009 22:45:06 +0000

What you have talked about there is indeed one of the biggest problems with JavaScript. However, there are many other problems, for example the language itself is based upon an outdated model developed almost 12 years ago and the language itself has many flaws.

I also noticed you talked about the StandardLibrary there, indeed, Cross-Interpreter compatibility is probably the biggest issue with it, so on that note I implemented as much of the StandardLibrary as possible using JavaScript itself, that way a simple or old interpreter will have a minimum amount of problems.

http://openjsan.org/doc/j/jh/jhuni/StandardLibrary/1.81/index.html

On the issue of a standard repository, I do hope that JSAN is the answer to that problem. As for a “standard way to include other modules” me and others have been working hard on that and I do not think it is going to be resolved anytime soon. One of the biggest issues is how do you deal with HTTP requests?

By: Kevin Dangoor

Kevin Dangoor — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 14:12:32 +0000

Right now, your best bet for server side JavaScript would be to use Narwhal on Rhino, because you’ll get the easiest database support:

http://narwhaljs.org

Vision Web Hosting appears to be an inexpensive hosting choice for Java:

http://www.visionwebhosting.net/?a_aid=0eb3aaa3

By: CB Gayles

CB Gayles — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 02:26:23 +0000

Dear Sir:

I am looking for a web host that supports server side javascript.
I program in client side javascript & html. I need to use server side
language so that I can access a data base.

I hope that you can recommend one/several.

Please respond at your earliest convenience.

Thank you,
CB.Gayles

By: Bespin to Helma « Gozilla planet

Bespin to Helma « Gozilla planet — Tue, 21 Apr 2009 16:58:21 +0000

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By: Blue Sky On Mars » ServerJS: one week into building a better JavaScript

Blue Sky On Mars » ServerJS: one week into building a better JavaScript — Thu, 05 Feb 2009 14:08:58 +0000

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By: Michael O'Brien

Michael O'Brien — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 19:00:12 +0000

You describe the needs very well.

Ejscript is early (0.9.X) but it has many of the features you are describing. It is currently stand-alone as an interpreter, but an apache module is almost complete.

It implements Javascript plus a well defined module scheme and extensive library with SQLite, ORM, File I/O, Sockets, HTTP, E4X/XML and other APIs in the library. It also has a Rails like web framework.

It is early, but moving fast and will transition to 1.0 sometime late this quarter.

By: hannesw

hannesw — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 09:49:47 +0000

You have a good point here. Helma has always benefited from the huge quantity of java libraries out there, which can be use quite comfortably and naturally through Rhino's LiveConnect. I still see that as a major advantage of any Java based JS engine over those written in C or C++ on the server side. Of course, the problem with JavaScript is that it was _conceived_ as an embedded language, and that any features that would have allowed for a 'ecosystem' to grow around it (such as module support) were ommitted deliberately. While this is a great feature for some (see Havoc Pennington's blog entry, for instance), it's a real problem for JavaScript as a fully grown language. In Helma NG I implemented a module system that gives each module its own scope, and it really opens the language up.

By: This is a test. This is only a test | Delusions of Grandeur

This is a test. This is only a test | Delusions of Grandeur — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 21:25:39 +0000

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